Third Generation FI

Third Generation FI

Third Generation FI

I have been thinking and talking a lot lately about financial modeling behavior for the next generation and financial independence legacies.  So it hit me like a brick to realize that I am not only second generation FI, but third generation FI also.  Long before the young whippersnappers like Mr. Money Mustache or Vicki Robin, my step-grandfather was retired and living the good life.

Incidentally, he employed many of the same techniques that we now boast on our blogs and in our forums.  He was way before his time.  A forerunner of the FIRE community, he retired in his late 40’s back in the 1960’s and lived well into his 90’s.

Not a bad run.

But how did he do it?

Front Loading The Sacrifice

I know.  I know.  If you have read this blog before you have heard me talk about front loading.  This is not just a third generation FI superpower.  My step-grandfather did this in spades.  He started his career as a dentist, but he had no fondness for the profession.  So he worked hard and saved.  He saved for years as the sole income earner in the family.

And for him, I do think it was a sacrifice.  He is no longer alive to tell us, but I think he had no love for dentistry.  In fact, I can’t remember him ever regaling in his memories of his professional career.   His stories always centered around traveling the world or volunteering for hospice.

He usually talked about life, not work.

Geoarbitrage

How did he afford to retire at the tender age of 49 and live the next four decades without making any money?  He left his high cost of living neighborhood in suburban New Jersey, and moved to Santa Fé, New Mexico.  Sparsely populated at the time, land was cheap.  Taxes were cheap.  Utilities were cheap.  Restaurants were cheap.

We third generation FI peeps throw the term geoarbitrage around as if we created the concept.  But people have been utilizing this financial independence strategy for decades.  They just didn’t have a snappy term for it.

Third Generation FI

Frugality

You aren’t going to live four decades on savings without being at least a little frugal.  And to the great amusement of the rest of the family, my step-grandfather lived up to this notion to the tee.  You couldn’t expect to visit him in the desert and not take at least one cold shower.  He didn’t like to use the water heater.  He waged the thermostat wars relentlessly.

I’m sure there were countless other ways in which he optimized his household. Years later, the habits our family often jokes about are what is now coming up on frugality blogs as original tips and tricks.

As third generation FI, I’ve heard it all before.

Speculation

Although I can look to my step-grandfather as a true third generation FI inspiration, there was one area in particular in which we diverge.  He was a rampant speculator.  He was a stock picker, gambler, and a horse race junky.

In fact, family lore says that 6 months after retiring, he lost ninety percent of his wealth in the stock market.  Slowly, remarkably, he continued to stock pick and bounced back to levels way above his original bank account.

When he died in his early nineties, he had over a million dollars left in his name.

Final Thoughts

I am not only second generation FI, but also third generation FI.  My step-grandfather utilized our modern techniques of front loading, geoarbitrage, and frugality to live over half of his life job free.  Although he was a speculator, he somehow managed to make ends meet.

Not a bad legacy.

Not a bad legacy at all.

 

 

Doc G

A doctor who discovered the FI community but still struggling with RE.

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6 Responses

  1. So you’ve been a big baller since the womb Lol!

    With any luck, your kids will push that envelope even further than you have. That’s how generational wealth is set. Simple values go a long way. Cheers!

  2. Gasem says:

    In those days stocks were traded in something called bucket shops. They typically had a ticker machine but it was more like local options day trading than “investing”. Nobody invested. The first investing book I ever read was in the 8th grade “Reminiscence of a Stock operator” about Jesse Livermore. Livermore got so good at trading the bucket shops banned him kind of like card counters in Vegas. He just took his money and moved to the big time Wall Street. In 1929 he made $100 million (1.3b in todays bux) shorting the market. Livermore developed a trading system which paid off big. Definitely worth the read. Probably the closest we have today is the Merc commodities exchange down on Wacker Drive in Chicago. In 1980 I had saved enough money to buy a seat on the Chicago mini market down on Jackson street. I was trading grain markets when I lived down state in Champaign. It was either that or med school.

    We have these Brokerages like Fidelity and Vanguard, online accounts. computers and incredibly easy access to investment. When I first got in, a broker charged $200 for a single trade, $400 round trip. The deck was heavily stacked against the little guy like taking candy from a baby. If StepGrampa Doc G was able to live 40 years on his wits the guy was no joke. “Investing” was NOTHING like it is today. My Grandpa was a meat buyer for A&P so I spent some time down at the stock yards watching actual trades of livestock from the ranches to the west which came into Chicago on the cattle trains. Later he became VP of A&P. He used to give me crap about becoming an Anesthesiologist till he got his AAA anesthesia bill and realized I had virtually no office overhead. You should study up a little on this it would bring a better perspective to 3 gen of FI. You and I have it easiest by far.

    • Doc G says:

      My step grandfather was pretty impressive. And yes, we definitely have it easiest. I am very thankful for that.

  3. Xrayvsn says:

    Your step grandad truly was ahead of his time. No index funds. No internet to get advice. And yet he did for the most part all the right things to have truly FIREd.

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