Why Not Condos?

Why Not Condos?Why Not Condos?

It is no secret from my previous writing that I think the real estate asset class is both important and lucrative.  I would argue that adequate diversification requires at least a small allocation to this important revenue stream.  Even if one just dips their toes in with a smattering of REITs, syndication deals, or crowdfunding.  No one said that the process has to be hands on.  If you’re like me, however, the extra hassle is worth owning an actual physical asset.  Many prefer two-flats, multiunit buildings, or the all-time favorite, single family homes.  I consider myself a maverick for zigging when everyone else zags.  Thus, I invest in condominiums.  I have heard from just about everybody that this is not the ideal way to cash flow in the real estate game.  Yet, I have done just fine.  So I guess the big question is why?  Why not condos?

State of The Union

We currently own four condos in the Chicagoland area.  We bought our first in the city as a non investment property.  When we realized that we weren’t going to use it, we quickly converted the unit into a rental.  As the market crashed in the early 2000’s, we saw a good opportunity to buy foreclosures.  Years later, and after flipping one property, we now manage four units ourselves.

The properties cash flow fairly nicely.  Although our cap rate hovers around 5% (not great) and we  can’t meet the 1% rule on all our properties, we still manage to net well into the five figures every year.

So although I’m sure you have been warned against it, I say why not.  Why not condos?

Let’s look at why it works for us.

The Headache Factor

Taking care of a single family home or a multiunit building is a big pain.  There are just so many things that can go wrong.  Between managing the landscaping, beautifying the outer appearance, and keeping up to date with the Are The Extras Holding You Back?mechanicals, there is never a moment of rest.  Not only do you have to spend time and money keeping the property occupied, you have to contribute double to maintenance.  You could hire a management company, but that will subtract from the bottom line.

Condos, on the other hand, are smaller.  Although the internal mechanicals still fall to the owner, external structure, landscaping, and community services are all covered by HOA’s.  Although you are responsible for this extra monthly fee, there are plenty of properties available where the HOA is a small fraction of the monthly upkeep of a single family home.

In fact, one of our buildings has a onsite maintenance team that will assist tenants and fix almost anything at cost to the owner. Talk about easy!

We have found that even as two busy professionals, it is quite reasonable to manage a condo by ourselves.  The daily needs are minimal and often easy to solve over the phone or with the help of the condo association.

The Economics

I have met so many real estate investors who won’t even look at a property if it doesn’t follow the 1% or 2% rule.  While I think that this is wise in general, in certain markets like Chicago, it’s just not possible.  The cost of real estate is too high and rents are too low.

For many, the simple answer is to either invest out-of-state or buy REITs instead.

I say, why not condos?

Condominiums have low maintenance, low upkeep costs, and rarely require the use of a property manager.  Thus, while the numbers don’t fit tidy into these great rule of thumb equations, the money you end up pocketing can often be the same if not greater.

Now, I know that some of you are concerned about the HOA’s.  But we have found very reasonable properties that rent for thousands with HOA’s in the $200 dollar range.  The numbers work out far better than if you had to hire a property manager.

Downsides

Well, of course there are always some.

Why not condos…

  • Lower rents
  • Crazy Condo Associations
  • Special Assessments
  • Slow Appreciation
  • Difficult to sell

In Conclusion

Although straying from the typical real estate dogma, we have found it quite lucrative to buy and rent condos.  There are several advantages: fewer headaches, less maintenance, better cash flow, and the ability to succeed  in a tight real estate market.  We have avoided the pitfalls by only buying in highly sought after areas with good rent appreciation, scrutinizing the condo associations carefully before agreeing to buy, and managing the properties ourselves.

Are condos for everybody?  Of course not.  If we lived in a lower cost of living area, I am betting we would be more likely to buy single family homes.

How about you?  Do any of you out there own condos that you rent out?  Does it work economically? 

 

 

 

Doc G

A doctor who discovered the FI community but still struggling with RE.

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23 Responses

  1. Xrayvsn says:

    If I were to go back into direct property ownership I think condos would be my first choice. I owned 2 before which I subsequently lost in my divorce (to be honest I that out of all assets I lost that probably had the least effect on me emotionally). I think you need a certain level of condo to bring in a certain level of rent to make the hoa justifiable. Mine were geared towards college students as it was in great location near a top ranked university. However this meant rents were pretty low (so that they could afford it) and my hoa fees were close to 20% of that. There were still headaches I had to deal with and after taxes the money I netted was so low (probably the equivalent of reading 5 xrays) that I just didnt think it was justified.

    • Doc G says:

      I agree, it’s important to buy in the right area and attract the right kind of rentor. Although I can make more money doctoring, this is a nice uncorrelated asset class to the stock market or your traditional W2.

  2. Dr Linus says:

    Great post! I own 3 condos in the Chicagoland area as well and was lucky to buy in an area that has been growing rapidly since 2009.

    Sure these aren’t fancy multi-unit buildings but low maintenance, cash flow positive, appreciating properties.

    In the fall, I did a cash out refinance on 2 of them to tap into the equity. They are still cash flow positive with only $10k of my own money invested in each (writing a post on this) and then took the cash and put it into crowdfunded real estate

    I still use the 1% Rule to vet properties or give advice to people who ask “you think this is a good rental property?” But that’s where the 1% Rule end because every situation is different .

    Cheers

  3. There are many ways to invest in real estate and it’s all local. It looks like it’s working out for you. In the Bay Area, it’s impossible to cash flow. Investors here are betting on appreciation. That’s a big reason why I invest in syndication and crowdfunding in other locales.

  4. My real estate is REITs all the way!

  5. Ty says:

    I invest in both SFH and condos for rentals. The condos are definitely less work for me, I can manage those myself. I use property managers for the SFHs because of their additional work: exterior painting, leaks, roof and rain gutter maintenance, yard work. Tenant types are also different. SFHs tend to appeal to larger families with kids, with more social activities, more wear and tear, and in my experience SFH tenants tend to have more requests. My SFHs have a lot more space and affords the tenants more personal freedom, which may or may not be abused. E.g. it’s much easier to get away with smoking in a non-smoking SFH rental than in a condo. Or getting away with hoarding, garbage build-up, MJ grow rooms, or underground torture chambers…

    On the financial side, I make good money from both, mostly just depends on the purchase price. I made a killing on my condos since I bought them in 2012, they return 18% annually on my original investment, and have appreciated 250%.

    • Ty says:

      By the way, I am in the Bay Area. It had a great real-estate investing moment during the financial crisis, didn’t last long…

    • Doc G says:

      It’s great to see you made it work in the Bay Area. If I had SFH I probably would use a property manager too!

  6. Ray says:

    Great post Doc G,
    I have flirted with the idea of buying a residential real estate property for years, but never quite had the nerve to pull the trigger. I am terrified of the 2am “My toilet is spewing water” call from a tenant. I’ve only considered single family homes, but you’ve given me something to think about with condos. If I could find a property with an onsite maintenance team like you described above, I think I’d be tempted to give it a shot. Having that kind of help with the property maintenance would be very appealing, even if it cut into my cash flow a little.

    -Ray

  7. We have 2 rentals — a SFH and the other is half of a duplex. It is sort of condo-like in that there are HOA fees to maintain the front yard, but we’re on our own to negotiate our roof repairs with the other owner. It has been a better investment than our other SFH as far as cash flow, but the home has better appreciation.

    I think your idea of lower maintanence is a good point. It is sort of like retiring early or quitting your job. You are skipping part of the maintanance!

  8. Gasem says:

    I guess the toilet spewing at 2 am isn’t any more scary than the patient spewing at 2 am

    I only own a tiny bit of REIT, pretty much a place holder. I don’t like the non correlated risk and the high SD

  9. Bernz JP says:

    I agree with you on the headache factor of owning a multi-unit building. My brother used to own one and it was driving him nuts. I have invested in a one-bedroom condo unit and have been renting it since 2010 without any issues. Only have two tenants in 7 years and they’re both very responsible people.

  10. gayle says:

    What a great article !!!! I seriously was just talking selling my Chicago studio and buying something in the burbs. I dont make much money on my place, approx 185 monthly , but the tenants are great and they stay for years..Im near Navy Pier…so am I making the right decision by staying ?? Excited to hear you are in my area as well !!!!!

  11. gayle says:

    It is funny I was on line this am and found some 4 units in Oswego, and I thought wow I could make so much more $$, but ohh the headache, and actually I love my little place in the city…then I read your article !!! lol

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