FatFIRE Frugal

FatFIRE Frugal

FatFIRE FrugalI have never tried to position this as a frugality blog.  Though I want to spend reasonably, my path has been full of what some would call luxury expenses.  My journey to FI has been more paved with high earnings and less with cutting back.  With a little bit of luck and lots of hard work, I have felt privileged to not only reach financial independence, but to do so comfortably.  I think I fit most people’s definition of FatFIRE.  Whether I am, or not, really is not the purpose of this post.  While frugality is not top of the mind for many large W2 wage earners, for those higher on the net worth ladder there is a tendency to be very careful in how money is spent on the bigger purchases.  There is such a thing as being fatFIRE frugal.

In order to truly understand this phenomenon, one must realize that these habits are long ingrained before wealth is attained.  Not only did these individuals reach high levels of wealth by garnering strong W2 wages, they also knew how to avoid the lure of being all hat but no cattle.

While they may have paid little attention to frugality in their day-to-day life, they were fatFire frugal when it came to the expensive stuff.

House Rich

A main pillar of the fatFIRE frugal lifestyle is that you don’t over buy on your primary residence.  Financially savvy people see their home more as an emotional and less financial investment.  There is nothing worse than sinking one’s wealth into an asset that often will not grow as fast as the stock market or some business venture or another.  They see better avenues for their wealth.  Therefore they usually put their residence in the cost column and not the investment.

The fatFIRE frugal practitioner will likely own a nice house.  But, they bought it in foreclosure.  Or they targeted the cheapest house on the block.  And they paid in cash or ditched their mortgage in half the time expected.

Once settled into a house or neighborhood, they tend not to upgrade.

Even if they are the wealthiest on the block.

Just Beater

For the most part, cars are a depreciating asset.  So the fatFIRE frugal crowd is very particular in how they spend on this important purchase.  They often buy used.  It is not uncommon for them to have the oldest, most mangy looking vehicle in the parking lot of the highly successful business that they own.

They also drive their cars into the ground.  Odometers race past 150K miles.  They tend to buy trusty vehicles and maintain them flawlessly.

Travel Hacking

FatFIRE FrugalFatFIRE frugal does not preclude vacationing.  In fact, it is a central tenet to enjoying the finer things in life.  But they tend to do it in more economical fashion than their not so wealthy counterparts.

They use points and miles every chance they get.  The benefit of owning a business or living in a high cost of living area is that you can really run up the credit card with necessary purchases.  This allows for a maximization of benefits.

They travel during slow periods when prices are better .  They schedule flights during inopportune hours when deals are the best.  Because they often own their own businesses, they take advantage of last-minute deals and push the schedule around to accommodate some fun.

Final Thoughts

Their are many of us who reached financial independence not strictly by deploying diverse economic life hacks, but by earning high wages and saving.  You won’t see this group stressing over grocery bills or studying ways to cut cell phone costs.

Yet, if you look closely, you will see a world of fatFIRE frugal habits that have boosted their wealth.  The concentration on large expenses and modest lifestyle created the path to high net worth.

In other words,

They got the big things right.

Doc G

A doctor who discovered the FI community but still struggling with RE.

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28 Responses

  1. Me! I want to be a Fat Fir Frugal Lol! It has a pretty catch ring to it. I don’t get caught up these days in being to frugal, i just need to get my income high enough to match my mindset. I want to earn Doctor money without being a doctor…. pretty easy right? 😉

  2. Guilty as charged. I bought a house at a huge discount, drive a 7 year old used car and travel all over using CME money and credit card rewards. I can’t say that it was part of some master plan. Like you said – these habits are ingrained. Whether I achieve fat FIRE or morbidly obese FIRE, I suspect these habits are here to stay.

  3. My frugal habits are ingrained and will always be with me. I’ll be like Warren Buffet one day, looking to get the best deal on a simple shirt. Except I won’t have nearly as much NW as him;)

  4. Sums me up to a “T.”

    I am in the throws off the frugal aspect of FAT fire frugal. I look forward to getting a little fatter a year from now. Oh, student loans.

    TPP

  5. Ray says:

    I guess I’m in this category and never realized it. We bought our big doctor house at a steep discount as it was in foreclosure. I finally replaced my 17 year old car this spring, and we never travel anywhere unless we can cover most of the expenses with our credit card miles or we’re going to a CME conference and will get reimbursed.

    At last I have a diagnosis! Thanks for the label. Lol.
    -Ray

  6. Interesting name to it. I fall in this category. Then again I tend to focus on smart spending based on what I really value rather then frugal in the traditional set. Our cars were bought new, but the 2 of 3 are over a decade old. Our house is larger but older so not the high cost new construction. We buy what we value but we don’t need the best.

  7. Dr. McFrugal says:

    Sounds like me. My home is one of the cheapest houses on the block (still expensive though!). But it’s in a very desirable, affluent community so appreciation is super high. Before buying my Tesla, I drove my grandfather’s hand-me-down 17 year old Mercedes that has 155k miles on it. I definitely travel hack and maximize every bit of it. I guess I’m FatFire Frugal.

  8. While our income was not at your level, our salaries were fairly high and I think of us as Fat FIRE. We got our home as a bargain that needed all sorts of remodeling, which we DIY updated, including an addition and my husband hand made our kitchen cabinets. I drove over 500,000 miles on my Mercedes 240D.

    In this case, yes, I like being called “FAT”!

  9. Travel and vacationing took up about 37% of my spending last year, and I get bargains on my travel. That’s what most people spend on housing.

    Dr. Cory S. Fawcett
    Prescription for Financial Success

  10. You would be making a good bet.

  11. E says:

    I’m definitely part of the tribe! There is no need to overpay, there’s always a sale, a coupon or incentive of one kind or another. Also, important to feel good about your likes and wants . If you don’t enjoy things that you like or want while you are alive, then when will you ?

  12. xrayvsn says:

    For me I’ve been lucky that I have used geographic arbitrage to perfection and gotten an amazing home that would have cost several million in any other area. I tend not to buy things, especially for myself, but when I do they tend to be a bit of a big ticket item (i.e. when I decided to upgrade my car, went all out and got my Tesla). Even with all these occasional splurges, my savings rate was 74% (post tax income) 2016 and 81% 2017. That more than anything is what is propelling me to FatFire hopefully soon

  13. HP @ FTD says:

    I enjoyed this post. I can relate. The decisions made with bigger purchases have kept my HH in the clear of lifestyle inflation. Case in point. My husband is driving a car that got hit last year. It still works great, but it’s a real eyesore. We will upgrade soon but only when we can pay outright for it. Each vacay we go on uses some points to cut down on costs. The benefits have been into the thousands which makes it a no brainer.

  14. VagabondMD says:

    I do not consider myself frugal but have coined the term selectively extravagant. I am not afraid to pay up for happiness (like a great vacation) but do not do it too often.

  1. July 1, 2018

    […] with how they spend their money. My friends would call me cheap, but Doc G from DiverseFI calls it fatFIRE frugal. His description fits me to a T. I bought my big dumb house at a huge discount, drive a 7 year old […]

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